Abstract of Margaret Trotter, 2019
Item — Box: 22
Identifier: H01690002
Overview
MARGARET TROTTER
Interviewer: Janice Templeton
Abstracter: W. Brent Coats
DISC 1: TRACK 1
00:00 Interview introduction
00:48 MARGARET TROTTER (nee) COWIE - Born in 1922 in INVERCARGILL Father HENRY COWIE - Details
2.14 Lived at EAST LIMEHILLS - Mother MCRAE – Lived at HOKONUI - Details [Additional family information documented in The McRaes of Baintra and The Cowie Family written by Margaret Trotter, and Arthur’s Story by Arthur Trotter]
3.32 SCHOOLING - EAST LIMEHILLS SCHOOL - Walked and rode pony First teacher PEGGY GALT - Boarded with Cowie family - Father CHAIRMAN of SCHOOL COMMITTEE - Only one teacher with 10 or 12 pupils - Describes 5.59 SIBLINGS – IAN oldest – ANDREW – BOB – Youngest CATHERINE MERDINA (sp?) - Details
6:59 BOB and Self biked to school – PONY paddock - PEARCE family friends - Describes 8:02 SOUTHLAND TECHNICAL COLLEGE on DIPTON bus Boarded with elderly lady Monday to Friday No SCHOOL UNIFORM – Gym frocks in Winter
10:00 SUBJECTS – “Domestic” - cooking, sewing, maths – Two years then MATRICULATION – Learned French language – Describes
11:42 Went to COLUMBA COLLEGE final year – Full time boarding – Did not enjoy in same room with others SCHOOL was successful – Favourite subject English – Explains
13:42 Returned home to farm for year – MOTHER died with CANCER – Describes
14:43 Holiday at RIVERTON after every CHRISTMAS
15:00 End of Track 1
DISC 1: TRACK 2
00:00 ... EXTENDED FAMILY joined holiday – Describes
00:36 Explains beginnings of FAMILY CHRISTMAS’ – MCRAE family – 30-50 people – Santa Clause – Describes
01:49 Parents lived in OTAPIRI – Built present house 1933-1934 – Describes
03:00 SELF IN CHARGE of household – Mother not at home with cancer – Did not know about illness – Explains
04:09 FARMED sheep – Had own MILL – Explains
05:04 Brother IAN farmed at HEDGEHOPE – Mentions Father paid children WAGES
06:10 WORLD WAR TWO - ANDREW served in AIR FORCE – BOB in MOUNTED RIFLES - ANDREW sent to Islands – BOB had “top place” farm – Married IRIS MINCHER – ANDREW farmed parents property – Married - Describes
08:41 Parents built new house 1930s – Andrew lived in cottage
09:02 FATHER remarried – BEATRICE CUNNINGHAM - Adult children accepted – GOOD COMPANY for father - Remained on farm for while – Built in WINTON – Describes
10:55 Met ARTHUR TROTTER at cousin’s wedding – Describes
11:42 ENTERTAINMENT as teenager – Dances – Joined WOMENS DIVISION FEDERATED FARMERS (WDFF) – OTAPIRI hall had dances for soldiers – Describes
13:48 IAN remained at home for war - Mentions
15:00 End of Track 2
DISC 2: TRACK 3
00:00 At COLUMBA when WAR declared
01:03 Brother “made decision” for WAR service - Describes
01:49 RATIONING – Shortages of food – SHOPPED WINTON and INVERCARGILL – Two GROCERS – Killed own meat and bread – MCRAE cousins cooked wholemeal bread – Describes
04:07 Self and ARTHUR dated for year – Engagement – Marriage in 1947 – ARTHUR not at war – WEDDING at CENTRE BUSH CHURCH – RECEPTION at WINTON Tea Rooms – Lived at TROTTER house “ROSLIN” – Describes
06:24 [Asked about proposal – did not want to describe] Married 5 March 1947 – 3 week Honeymoon - QUEENSTOWN, CENTRAL OTAGO – Details
07:00 Sister Cathy took over ROLE at HOME – In LAND ARMY – Worked at home and neighbour’s – Describes
08:06 Self and ARTHUR lived at TROTTER homestead called ROSLIN – Many family in house – Big house – ISABEL TROTTER did most work – Describes
09:28 TROTTER mother “aging” – Father “real gentleman” – Had to make ADJUSTMENTS – ISABEL left after year – Never married – Hard at times “but worth it” – Describes
11:02 Self and ARTHUR had own area of house – Build c.1870 – Large GARDEN – ARTHUR mowed lawn and vegetable garden – Added ORCHARD – Describes
12:43 Had 5 children – ANN, RUTH, JUNE, LYNNE, JOHN – Lived at ROSLIN
13:21 TROTTER mother died – FATHER and ISABEL moved to INVERGILL – Self and ARTHUR left on property – Got help with chores – Describes
15:00 End of Track 3
DISC 1: TRACK 4
00:00 Added new KITCHEN – Describes MCCLARY electric range – Ate in living room – Describes
03:03 Describes PLAN of new and old kitchen – Slow running water – Laundry – Washing Machine – Fridge and food safe – ARTHUR killed meat - STORE at WOODLANDS - Describes
06:02 FARM off main road – TROTTER ROAD – Describes
06:49 Self involved in WOMEN’S DIVISION and CHURCH – Mentions
07:12 Began WRITING “little bits to start with” – CHILDREN at WOODLANDS SCHOOL – Girls went to HIGH SCHOOL – JOHN at JOHN MCGLASHAN HIGH SCHOOL – Details
08:42 First BOOK THE MCRAES OF BAINTRA [1984] – MCRAE get-togethers – “MCRAE days” – 1963 CENTENNIAL – Describes
10:36 Next books - EARLY WOODLANDS [1973] – About District – THE COWIE FAMILY – FORGOTTEN FLAXFIELDS – Details
12:08 Gathering information – LIBRARY and family ASSISTANCE – Most willing to give information – Mentions
13:52 MCRAE day began her writing – [Interviewer attempting to order date of books]
14:57 A TRIBUTE TO CATHIE [2000] – Small book about sister CATHERINE 15:00 End of Track 4
DISC 1: TRACK 5
00:00 …TRIBUTE given only to family
00:29 FLAXMILLS OF THE SOUTH – “People willing to share” information – Sold well – Sold by SOUTHLAND MUSEUM AND ART GALLERY and FLAXMILL – Mentions
End of Track 5
DISC 2: TRACK 1
00:06 Stepmother BEATRICE CUNNINGHAM
00:30 FLAXMILLS OF THE SOUTH – Remains of mills LINEN FLAX grew for WAR effort - Mentions [Interviewer will talk to ARTHUR TROTTER]
02:20 Interviewee SELF-PUBLISHED books – Own expense – Mentions [Interviewer explains additional material to be published about MARGARET]
03:55 WOMEN’S DIVISION [now Rural Women] – Daughter ANN Mid-Southland Chairwoman Meeting People – events – Self has ENJOYED ORGANISATION – Meetings involve DEMONSTRATIONS – Describes
06:52 CHURCH – Involvement after marriage – ARTHUR involved in Session committee [Interviewee does not remember details] ORIGINAL church on main road – FUNDRAISING effort - Mentions 08:26 ASSOCIATION OF PRESBYTRIAN WOMEN – “Family came first” – Fitted in activities - Mentions
09:26 Children biked to SCHOOL
10:02 Daughter ANN – Married twice – Lives at WAIMATUA Daughter RUTH attended UNIVERSITY – KILLED during climbing ACCIDENT – “Heartbreaking” – Aged 19 years – Recalls
12:28 Daughter JUNE “great help” – Trained as NURSE – Part-time TEACHER – Describes
13:31 Daughter LYNNE [Interviewee does not remember details]
13:53 Son JOHN attended JOHN MCGLASHAN HIGH SCHOOL Lived on farm – Moved into ROSLIN house after marriage - Bought extra land at WAIMATE (?)
15:00 End of Track 1
DISC 1: TRACK 2
00:06 [Interviewer mentions JOHN has had an accident]
00:23 New HOUSE at WOODLANDS - [Interviewee and Interviewer looking for additional information]
01:33 DRESSMAKING classes – Organised by WOMEN’S DIVISION FEDERATED FARMERS – Enjoyed COMPANY of ladies – Describes
02:28 SINGING at OTAPIRI – Teacher Mr. SIMPSON – Enjoyed – Played for singing brother – Describes
03:05 Self learned PIANO – TECHNICAL COLLEGE and COLUMBA - Describes Sang in MESSIAH - Mentions
04:23 EXHIBITION with parents in WELLINGTON – TRAVELLED by train and boat – Weeklong tour – Uncle JIM TROTTER in MASTERTON – Medical professional – Died of heart failure – WIFE doctor as well – Describes
06:53 DANCES in ROSLIN stable – Band played – Men “crowded around door” – Describes
08:51 Daughter ANN’s BIRTH – Nurse PERKINS – Mistook labour time – STAFF RUSHED to help Self giving birth – Describes
10:26 ROSLIN - Self planted ORCHARD – Mentions
11:22 Learned PAINTING – WORKERS EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION – Mentions
12:23 Old ROSLIN house bulldozed – “Dilapidated” - NOT WORTH restoration – “Heartbreaking” – Much BORER in wood – Describes
14:11 Awarded QUEEN’S SERVICE MEDAL 1998
15:00 End of Track 2
DISC 1: TRACK 3
00:00 …Received in WELLINGTON – Presented by GOVERNOR-GENERAL – Self and husband present – Maybe other family – Mentions
01:43 REWARDS from writing – COMPLIMENTS appreciated People willing to talk – Took notes – Self wrote, edited and published – Often ACCOMPANIED by ARTHUR – Describes
03:45 [Interviewer acknowledges help from daughter June]
04:47 End of Track 3
Interviewer: Janice Templeton
Abstracter: W. Brent Coats
DISC 1: TRACK 1
00:00 Interview introduction
00:48 MARGARET TROTTER (nee) COWIE - Born in 1922 in INVERCARGILL Father HENRY COWIE - Details
2.14 Lived at EAST LIMEHILLS - Mother MCRAE – Lived at HOKONUI - Details [Additional family information documented in The McRaes of Baintra and The Cowie Family written by Margaret Trotter, and Arthur’s Story by Arthur Trotter]
3.32 SCHOOLING - EAST LIMEHILLS SCHOOL - Walked and rode pony First teacher PEGGY GALT - Boarded with Cowie family - Father CHAIRMAN of SCHOOL COMMITTEE - Only one teacher with 10 or 12 pupils - Describes 5.59 SIBLINGS – IAN oldest – ANDREW – BOB – Youngest CATHERINE MERDINA (sp?) - Details
6:59 BOB and Self biked to school – PONY paddock - PEARCE family friends - Describes 8:02 SOUTHLAND TECHNICAL COLLEGE on DIPTON bus Boarded with elderly lady Monday to Friday No SCHOOL UNIFORM – Gym frocks in Winter
10:00 SUBJECTS – “Domestic” - cooking, sewing, maths – Two years then MATRICULATION – Learned French language – Describes
11:42 Went to COLUMBA COLLEGE final year – Full time boarding – Did not enjoy in same room with others SCHOOL was successful – Favourite subject English – Explains
13:42 Returned home to farm for year – MOTHER died with CANCER – Describes
14:43 Holiday at RIVERTON after every CHRISTMAS
15:00 End of Track 1
DISC 1: TRACK 2
00:00 ... EXTENDED FAMILY joined holiday – Describes
00:36 Explains beginnings of FAMILY CHRISTMAS’ – MCRAE family – 30-50 people – Santa Clause – Describes
01:49 Parents lived in OTAPIRI – Built present house 1933-1934 – Describes
03:00 SELF IN CHARGE of household – Mother not at home with cancer – Did not know about illness – Explains
04:09 FARMED sheep – Had own MILL – Explains
05:04 Brother IAN farmed at HEDGEHOPE – Mentions Father paid children WAGES
06:10 WORLD WAR TWO - ANDREW served in AIR FORCE – BOB in MOUNTED RIFLES - ANDREW sent to Islands – BOB had “top place” farm – Married IRIS MINCHER – ANDREW farmed parents property – Married - Describes
08:41 Parents built new house 1930s – Andrew lived in cottage
09:02 FATHER remarried – BEATRICE CUNNINGHAM - Adult children accepted – GOOD COMPANY for father - Remained on farm for while – Built in WINTON – Describes
10:55 Met ARTHUR TROTTER at cousin’s wedding – Describes
11:42 ENTERTAINMENT as teenager – Dances – Joined WOMENS DIVISION FEDERATED FARMERS (WDFF) – OTAPIRI hall had dances for soldiers – Describes
13:48 IAN remained at home for war - Mentions
15:00 End of Track 2
DISC 2: TRACK 3
00:00 At COLUMBA when WAR declared
01:03 Brother “made decision” for WAR service - Describes
01:49 RATIONING – Shortages of food – SHOPPED WINTON and INVERCARGILL – Two GROCERS – Killed own meat and bread – MCRAE cousins cooked wholemeal bread – Describes
04:07 Self and ARTHUR dated for year – Engagement – Marriage in 1947 – ARTHUR not at war – WEDDING at CENTRE BUSH CHURCH – RECEPTION at WINTON Tea Rooms – Lived at TROTTER house “ROSLIN” – Describes
06:24 [Asked about proposal – did not want to describe] Married 5 March 1947 – 3 week Honeymoon - QUEENSTOWN, CENTRAL OTAGO – Details
07:00 Sister Cathy took over ROLE at HOME – In LAND ARMY – Worked at home and neighbour’s – Describes
08:06 Self and ARTHUR lived at TROTTER homestead called ROSLIN – Many family in house – Big house – ISABEL TROTTER did most work – Describes
09:28 TROTTER mother “aging” – Father “real gentleman” – Had to make ADJUSTMENTS – ISABEL left after year – Never married – Hard at times “but worth it” – Describes
11:02 Self and ARTHUR had own area of house – Build c.1870 – Large GARDEN – ARTHUR mowed lawn and vegetable garden – Added ORCHARD – Describes
12:43 Had 5 children – ANN, RUTH, JUNE, LYNNE, JOHN – Lived at ROSLIN
13:21 TROTTER mother died – FATHER and ISABEL moved to INVERGILL – Self and ARTHUR left on property – Got help with chores – Describes
15:00 End of Track 3
DISC 1: TRACK 4
00:00 Added new KITCHEN – Describes MCCLARY electric range – Ate in living room – Describes
03:03 Describes PLAN of new and old kitchen – Slow running water – Laundry – Washing Machine – Fridge and food safe – ARTHUR killed meat - STORE at WOODLANDS - Describes
06:02 FARM off main road – TROTTER ROAD – Describes
06:49 Self involved in WOMEN’S DIVISION and CHURCH – Mentions
07:12 Began WRITING “little bits to start with” – CHILDREN at WOODLANDS SCHOOL – Girls went to HIGH SCHOOL – JOHN at JOHN MCGLASHAN HIGH SCHOOL – Details
08:42 First BOOK THE MCRAES OF BAINTRA [1984] – MCRAE get-togethers – “MCRAE days” – 1963 CENTENNIAL – Describes
10:36 Next books - EARLY WOODLANDS [1973] – About District – THE COWIE FAMILY – FORGOTTEN FLAXFIELDS – Details
12:08 Gathering information – LIBRARY and family ASSISTANCE – Most willing to give information – Mentions
13:52 MCRAE day began her writing – [Interviewer attempting to order date of books]
14:57 A TRIBUTE TO CATHIE [2000] – Small book about sister CATHERINE 15:00 End of Track 4
DISC 1: TRACK 5
00:00 …TRIBUTE given only to family
00:29 FLAXMILLS OF THE SOUTH – “People willing to share” information – Sold well – Sold by SOUTHLAND MUSEUM AND ART GALLERY and FLAXMILL – Mentions
End of Track 5
DISC 2: TRACK 1
00:06 Stepmother BEATRICE CUNNINGHAM
00:30 FLAXMILLS OF THE SOUTH – Remains of mills LINEN FLAX grew for WAR effort - Mentions [Interviewer will talk to ARTHUR TROTTER]
02:20 Interviewee SELF-PUBLISHED books – Own expense – Mentions [Interviewer explains additional material to be published about MARGARET]
03:55 WOMEN’S DIVISION [now Rural Women] – Daughter ANN Mid-Southland Chairwoman Meeting People – events – Self has ENJOYED ORGANISATION – Meetings involve DEMONSTRATIONS – Describes
06:52 CHURCH – Involvement after marriage – ARTHUR involved in Session committee [Interviewee does not remember details] ORIGINAL church on main road – FUNDRAISING effort - Mentions 08:26 ASSOCIATION OF PRESBYTRIAN WOMEN – “Family came first” – Fitted in activities - Mentions
09:26 Children biked to SCHOOL
10:02 Daughter ANN – Married twice – Lives at WAIMATUA Daughter RUTH attended UNIVERSITY – KILLED during climbing ACCIDENT – “Heartbreaking” – Aged 19 years – Recalls
12:28 Daughter JUNE “great help” – Trained as NURSE – Part-time TEACHER – Describes
13:31 Daughter LYNNE [Interviewee does not remember details]
13:53 Son JOHN attended JOHN MCGLASHAN HIGH SCHOOL Lived on farm – Moved into ROSLIN house after marriage - Bought extra land at WAIMATE (?)
15:00 End of Track 1
DISC 1: TRACK 2
00:06 [Interviewer mentions JOHN has had an accident]
00:23 New HOUSE at WOODLANDS - [Interviewee and Interviewer looking for additional information]
01:33 DRESSMAKING classes – Organised by WOMEN’S DIVISION FEDERATED FARMERS – Enjoyed COMPANY of ladies – Describes
02:28 SINGING at OTAPIRI – Teacher Mr. SIMPSON – Enjoyed – Played for singing brother – Describes
03:05 Self learned PIANO – TECHNICAL COLLEGE and COLUMBA - Describes Sang in MESSIAH - Mentions
04:23 EXHIBITION with parents in WELLINGTON – TRAVELLED by train and boat – Weeklong tour – Uncle JIM TROTTER in MASTERTON – Medical professional – Died of heart failure – WIFE doctor as well – Describes
06:53 DANCES in ROSLIN stable – Band played – Men “crowded around door” – Describes
08:51 Daughter ANN’s BIRTH – Nurse PERKINS – Mistook labour time – STAFF RUSHED to help Self giving birth – Describes
10:26 ROSLIN - Self planted ORCHARD – Mentions
11:22 Learned PAINTING – WORKERS EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION – Mentions
12:23 Old ROSLIN house bulldozed – “Dilapidated” - NOT WORTH restoration – “Heartbreaking” – Much BORER in wood – Describes
14:11 Awarded QUEEN’S SERVICE MEDAL 1998
15:00 End of Track 2
DISC 1: TRACK 3
00:00 …Received in WELLINGTON – Presented by GOVERNOR-GENERAL – Self and husband present – Maybe other family – Mentions
01:43 REWARDS from writing – COMPLIMENTS appreciated People willing to talk – Took notes – Self wrote, edited and published – Often ACCOMPANIED by ARTHUR – Describes
03:45 [Interviewer acknowledges help from daughter June]
04:47 End of Track 3
Dates
- 2019
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- From the Record Group: Templeton, Janice (Interviewer, Person)
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