RONALD LANCELOT WALKER Interviewer: Rebecca Amundsen Abstracter: Jean Hawkes

TRACK 1

00:53 RONALD LANCELOT WALKER born 1923.

01:03 Recording Agreement.

01:43 No special reason for name. Only brother DALE LESTER. Father – RICHARD and his father RICHARD. On NGAIRE'S [wife] side a line of SARAHs.

02:24 [PARENTS]: Father – RICHARD JOHN born LONGFORD, TASMANIA. Paternal grandparents – RICHARD WALKER and MARGARET HUGHES – came about 1860s. Some family born IRELAND. HUGHES family to TASMANIA early 1800s – granted land – farmers – descendant still on land raising beef cattle also poppies for pharmaceutical market in AMERICA.

04:19 Father to BLUFF 1905 – ploughman at 'RAKAHOOK' [RAKAHOUKA]. So cold – first pay bought ROSLYN WOOLLEN pink underwear. Survey Party LAKE HAUROKO area.

05:27 Father aged about 29 married ELLEN McKAY. Her father DONALD McKAY sawmiller in LONGWOODS. Company McKAY and SONS. Own father involved in sawmilling.

06:25 Did not meet father's parents. As a child aware of no grandparents on either side – envious of other children.

07:01 Maternal grandfather killed in sawmilling accident. 08:01 Father's siblings in AUSTRALIA.

08:23 End of Track 1

TRACK 2

00:06 MIDDLE SCHOOL – early 1950s – plans for gifted children and others. Students IQ versus Interpersonal relationships.

02:19 Father visited siblings in TASMANIA. Self corresponded – no visits.

03:06 [MOTHER'S SIBLINGS]: Only brother JOHN (known as JACK) in sawmill – two sisters ANNIE and 'SISSY'.

03:45 Self born at RIVERTON – Parents in NAPIER STREET – school across the road – returned as first year teacher 1945. 04:23 [EARLIEST MEMORIES]: Hail on roof – gift of coloured rubber ball. Rich childhood exploring rural area – CUB at 8 moved on to SCOUTS. 05:38 Mr McIVOR ran a 'flattie' up river – trips described. 'THE NARROWS' (POURAKINO and APARIMA RIVERS). 'Flattie' explained. Mr McIVOR only adult involved.

07:18 Old RAILWAY BRIDGE – journeys under the bridge – No life jackets.

08:15 Opportunity to learn to 'man the oars' – nesting terns.

08:52 Camp established near entrance of POURAKINO – activities described.

09:55 Recollections of first visit to campsite. Mealtime experience.

11:00 Played lots of games – 'Egg Cap' – described – very competitive. 'Reach the Stake without being Seen' – described.

13:09 Overnight camps – natural manuka shelter – main access by boat LONGWOOD mentioned.

14:11 Mr McIVOR was ALEX D McIVOR – formerly horse trainer.

15:00 End of Track 2.

TRACK 3

00:01 Jumping Track built – lots of fun. POURAKINO and APARIMA RIVERS mentioned. Sand spit – collecting cockles to eat.

01:14 Trips into town for rugby and boxing. CIVIC [THEATRE] – mentioned. ZEALANDIA HALL (INVERCARGILL) for roller skating.

02:08 [Mr McIVOR]: Asset to community – lessons in punctuality. UNIVERSITY EXTENSION – Mentioned.

03:59 [TEACHERS' COLLEGE]: Headmaster DAVIDSON – Scheme of Work for many things (explained). 05:28 FOVEAUX STRAIT – Mr McIVOR – AMERICANS – Pursuit of excellence.

06:06 [McIVOR]: No family of his own. Self and others much richer childhood as a result.

06:41 Self quite good athlete – training at (Riverton) RECREATION GROUND. 07:34 Self first year teacher RIVERTON – Father rejuvenated RIVERTON ATHLETIC SOCIETY – Preparation of running track – SHEFFIELD EVENT.

08:42 Eldest son PROFESSOR of LAW in MELBOURNE – Won SKELLERUP COMPETITION (essay) – JEWISH children mentioned.

09:10 Value of rich childhood – preparation for life.

10:32 WEA [Workers Educational Association] – Mention of old building.

10:55 [MOTHER]: Quiet achiever – reaction to self sitting University Entrance. Mother completed Form Two at school.

13:27 [EDUCATION of SIBLINGS]: Brother has degree in Agricultural Science – Self Teacher Training and degree in Politics and Economics – younger sister never went to University (very able person).

13:56 [FATHER]: Even temperament – Interest in town [RIVERTON] – BOROUGH COUNCILLOR – MAYOR – RIVERTON SPORTS ASSOCIATION about 1945. RACING CLUB

15:02 End of Track 3

TRACK 4

00:01 RIVERTON RACING CLUB – FARMING COMMITTEE – Described. [COMMITTEE]: Own father – ROUSELL from THORNBURY – with a third person. Three race days at EASTER – Father LIFE MEMBER.

01:01 FATHER'S transition from SAWMILLER in TASMANIA and RIVERTON – PLOUGHMAN to MAYOR of RIVERTON.

01:37 Mother and Aunt inherited GREAT WESTERN HOTEL about 1928.

02:21 Life a continuing journey. Reflection on own life – Return to school – Teachers' College – No university degree – 25 years teaching – 20 years University.

03:20 WINSTON CHURCHILL and CLEMENTINE – Mentioned.

03:47 Met NGAIRE while at MIDDLE SCHOOL – Married 1948 – 11 grandchildren. Youngest grand-daughter's scholarship AUSTRALIAN BALLET. Relationships within family.

06:22 Past students – positive attitudes – recognition of future possibilities – motivation.

08:05 Niche for everyone. Eldest son's problems at BOYS HIGH SCHOOL – effects of move to JAMES HARGEST HIGH SCHOOL – gained Honours in English and Law – Diploma in Education – MBA and Doctorate from DUKE UNIVERSITY. 09:43 Sensitivity of teenagers.

10:17 [EDUCATION]: Self RIVERTON PRIMARY to Form Two – Recommended for PROFICIENCY CERTIFICATE also DOROTHY FREW – EDMUND J BREWSTER (NELSON COLLEGE) – BARBARA ANGUS – LIONEL CLOUGHLEY.

12:28 Meeting with grand-daughter (mechanic)of DOROTHY FREW.

13:48 ALLAN DENNIS – TWEEDSMUIR INTERMEDIATE.

14:48 Mention of TEACHERS COLLEGE opening doors.

TRACK 5

00:09 Inspiration of JACK MARTIN (teacher) – ROUND HILL (SCHOOL) School plots – Described. MIDDLE SCHOOL – Maths programme.

02:26 Senior Inspector of Schools – interests noted by teachers.

03:17 First units in 1943 – degree completed 20 years later. Education Study Grant. Fear of Failure – Mentioned.

04:13 [EDUCATION]: Turning point in Standard 4. Importance of good teachers. No good at MATHS – youngest son (ALAN) A+ at OTAGO (MEDICINE). 05:49 Importance of maternal encouragement.

06:33 [DEPRESSION TIME]: Tough times.

08:07 Father sold HOTEL – stopped work at 60 – time at ALLIANCE FREEZING WORKS.

08:49 Family lived at HOTEL during Depression – Extent not realised by children. 10:00 PIERS (?) McKAY (LESLIE J McKAY cousin) book on his life. Mention of mother's action during Depression.

11:29 Achievements of LESLIE J McKAY.

11:52 During Depression many children barefoot to school. Ability of children to cope and become something in adult life

12:44 RIVERTON SCHOOL to BOYS' HIGH – travelled daily on 'WILD WESTER' (train). TUATAPERE – RIVERTON – GRASMERE – 'Train Boys' – much class time lost. 13:48 'Train Boys' from BLUFF worse that 'WILD WESTER' – replacement of carriage windows. No supervision. Guard BOLGER – Mentioned. Carriages – described.

15:02 End of Track 5 TRACK 6

00:01 Possible effects of lost school hours.

00:49 Family car OVERLANDER converted into small truck. Land at LONGWOOD.

01:34 BOYS' HIGH – roll about 300. Some good teachers – JOHN BRAITHWAITE (FRENCH) – 'BIRDIE' ROBINS – Mr DUNLOP (ENGLISH) 'FOWLER'S ENGLISH USAGE' – Mentioned.

02:50 Extra Mural HISTORY – HISTORY of EUROPE (book)

03:14 High School subjects – included WOODWORK with Mr PAGE.

03:42 Self RUGBY 1st XV – ATHLETIC CHAMPION – DESCHLER CUP for PHYSICAL and SCHOLASTIC ATTAINMENT. Sergeant in CADETS. HIGH LEAVING CERTIFICATE (after 6th Form)

04:31 GEORGE UTTLEY (RECTOR) – JACK CAMERON (ASSISTANT). Self kept reference written by CAMERON. CAMERON taught ENGLISH – Ran LIBRARY – First ASSISTANT.

05:15 CAMERON family holidays STEWART ISLAND – shell collection.

05:34 ARTHUR DEAKER (teacher) High School.

06:31 BOYS' HIGH SCHOOL surroundings – described.

06:58 Study award IMPERIAL RELATIONS TRUST – SMYTHE of CANTERBURY – DON RUTHERFORD of DUNEDIN – JIM DAKEN (father taught at Boys High).

08:14 Study trip described – 60 page report done – IONE (?) SANDERSON.

09:09 Return visit to ENGLAND – NUFFIELD FLATS in LONDON.

10:14 End of Track 6



TRACK 7

00:00 Recap previous interview.

00:20 [EDUCATION]: BOYS HIGH SCHOOL – compulsory subjects – little choice. Sons well qualified university people.

01:12 DESCHLER CUP in 6th Form.

01:22 Personal achievements – no particular passion for any subjects. Desire to go to TEACHERS' COLLEGE. Upbringing people and community orientated.

02:12 Attributes of a teacher. INTERMEDIATE SCHOOLS.

03:09 BOYS HIGH TEACHERS – Mr HOGG ('PIGGY') for CHEMISTRY. Teaching methods.

04:14 UNIVERSITY EXTENSION – Seminar sizes – interaction.

05:06 DE JUVENAL – mention of small groups – sharing views.

05:51 INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS PROGRAMME – Described.

06:41 Joined UNIVERSITY 1969 – DON MOSELEY (ALABAMA UNIVERSITY) – Management Programme – Leadership.

08:03 MACMASTER STREET property – First UNIVERSITY CENTRE – POLYTECHNIC mentioned. DON MOSELEY – Introduction process – Socratic interaction – participants reaction after two days.

10:26 'KEY to MANAGEMENT' – Discussion with DON MOSELEY.

11:18 'GREEK CITY STATES' Democracy a leadership struggle – AMERICAN system.

12:05 [ATHLETICS]: Country Picnics – Sports Days – RIVERTON – RACE COURSE – LONGWOODS – Prizes. Encouragement from Mr McIVOR. Achievements at BOYS HIGH SCHOOL – Own sons' interest. FRENCH SCHOOLS physical activities – NEW ZEALAND programming. 'Healthy Mind, Health Body' 15:02 End of Track 7

TRACK 8

00:00 Psychological well being – Effects daily exercise.

00:56 [PICNICS]: District – family involved. Country dances – Mentioned.

01:20 TWEEDSMUIR INTERMEDIATE – Folk Dancing.

01:51 [RUGBY]: Started Form 1 – First XV Boys High. RIVERTON – OHAI – TUATAPERE – OTAUTAU. TEACHERS' COLLEGE – 'Blue' for First XV – Athletics. Played for ASHBURTON.

03:03 Rugby for TUATAPERE at WESTERN STAR – Playing fields compared.

04:02 After marriage more time spent, at weekends, in class room than on sports field. 04:10 Care of school desks – Described.

05:55 GRADING SYSTEM – Mentioned. Visit of Inspector – 'Enriching Curriculum for Gifted' – abilities of top 10%. 07:30 Teacher-Student relationship – Teaching writing – Forming numbers.

09:27 Own ability to write without mistakes at HIGH SCHOOL. One error found at TEACHERS' COLLEGE.

09:56 NGAIRE to MISS GILLER'S PRIVATE COMMERCIAL COLLEGE. TOP for NEW ZEALAND in GOVERNMENT EXAMS.

10:48 Sold bundles of kindling wood – made paths for MANUAL TRAINING area.

12:10 Encouraging children to earn money.

12:46 Personal changes needed at HIGH SCHOOL – Described. Parents' different approaches.

13:50 Students encouraged to have library book in desk – good lighting required. 'Have a book at your elbow'

15:02 End of Track 8

TRACK 9

00:00 Own parents encouraged reading – Still has book prize from Form 2 “HEROES of FREEDOM”

00:46 Personal revision of Spelling and Maths – Penalty for miss-spelling words.

01:44 'Bright' students – academic achievement and enhancement.

02:28 Father-in-law retired RAILWAY MAN read to grandsons.

03:04 Own children's involvement with books. ELIZABETH MILLER (former Children's Librarian). Eldest son GORDON – LIZZIE RATHBONE SCHOLARSHIP (English and History) – HONOURS in ENGLISH and LAW – Doctorate from DUKE (UNIVERSITY) North Carolina.

05:21 Self natural teacher. LINGUISTICS – SOCIAL ANTHROPOLOGY – Mentioned (in relation to interviewer).

06:05 Previously no chance of doing a degree while at TEACHERS COLLEGE. Two years COLLEGE – One year Probationary Assistant – C Certificate. B Certificate six University units. Another 3 units for Degree. 06:35 Achievements of self over several years.

07:06 Implications of ORAL HISTORY PROJECT.

07:36 [DUNEDIN]: Teachers College first time away from home – Boarded with Mrs CRAIG at 551 CASTLE STREET – Friend from CENTRAL.

08:30 Self's view of B Ed (Bachelor of Education). Mention of MASSEY [Extra Mural] – UNIVERSITY EXTENSION.

10:27 Long-term persistence essential – Self realisation.

11:55 First interest in WEA 1942 – Testimonial from BOYS HIGH SCHOOL – J A 'BUSTER' CAMERON (First Assistant).

13:33 HISTORICAL BUILDING formerly STRANGS COFFEE HOUSE (WEA – SOUTHLAND EDUCATION) – Costs and problems.

13:43 Continuation of comments regarding HISTORICAL BUILDING. Status of HISTORICAL BUILDING. Number of years to gather various reports – approvals.

15:02 End of Track 9

TRACK 10

00:00 [HERITAGE CODE]: Possible problems with 'power that be'.

01:09 'Going the Extra Mile' – examples given.

01:27 [TEACHERS COLLEGE]: First time away from home – busy – enjoyable. MACANDREW INTERMEDIATE – Schemes handwritten – Homilies (Thrift) 03:07 [TEACHERS COLLEGE]: Great days – Rugby – Saturday night dances (SNC – Saturday Night Club). 03:48 Standard One class RIVERTON DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOL – incidents with pupils mentioned – Help in HIGH SCHOOL SECONDARY DEPARTMENT. 06:00 Had two units for degree – Applied for positions in DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOLS - No degree, No High School teaching.

06:59 GEOFF (son) – paua fishing – History and Economics – Studying – Passed units. Older brother in LAW SCHOOL – GEOFF followed – done very well. Since. 09:23 [STUDENT LOANS] – Allowance Nine pounds, two shillings and nine pence per month – little left after paying board. Sons worked at Freezing Works – Tiwai (Aluminium Smelter).

10:03 Self no part-time work while at TEACHERS COLLEGE.

10:18 [WORLD WAR TWO]: 1944 about half of section went away – Self remained.

11:06 JAPANESE movements through PACIFIC – BATTLE of CORAL SEA – DARWIN.

11:48 CHRISTCHURCH Earthquake – Mentioned.

12:11 “Book at your elbow” – explained

12:46 Only family member overseas – brother-in-law – Air Force killed in CANADA. Plaque from CANADIAN GOVERNMENT – Preservation described. Grand-daughter barrister in MELBOURNE – Grandson smallgoods manufacturing. HEATHER (mother) teacher retired.

15:02 End of Track 10

TRACK 11

00:02 Own father's re-action at news of son-in-law's death.

00:18 Met NGAIRE (wife) at a dance – engaged early 1948 – married. NGAIRE'S family lived corner TAY and LINDISFARNE STREETS – brother had drowned in THE ESTUARY.

01:20 NGAIRE – shorthand typist – Personal secretary to JOCK SMITH (H & J SMITH LTD) – NIGHT TECH as student ended up teaching class – Taught at GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL – TRUSTEES EXECUTORS about 25 years.

02:46 No computer in house.

03:16 STATEMENT of SERVICE – RIVERTON DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOL – much of time in INVERCARGILL – Short time in ASHBURTON. Reasons for staying in INVERCARGILL – Explained.

04:41 Liked INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL – 1958 to ST GEORGE – to TWEEDSMUIR (INTERMEDIATE) – Keen to be a PRINCIPAL – MIDDLE (SCHOOL) about 6 years – Degree completed.

05:35 STUDY GRANT – University position – Requirements for application .

07:43 Passion and enthusiasm for education – Natural interest in others.

08:52 Youngest son – Medicine – Child Health – Obstetrics in 5 or 6 years. Self completed degree in about 20 years.

09:10 Still encouraging people to study – Tactics to encourage study.

10:56 Destiny – No one else can live for you.

11:38 Changes – Achievements – Other people.

12:12 Estimated time for MASSEY papers – Study groups organised – Masters Graduates co-opted – Comparisons with MASSEY system – Difficulties encountered.

14:44 Better to travel hopefully than to arrive – Explained.

15:02 End of Track 11.

TRACK 12

00:01 “Arrived” equals “Finished” – explained.

00:54 [Influenced by]: JACK MARTIN primary school principal – DON RUTHERFORD university professor .

02:00 Overseas experience – special award (IMPERIAL RELATIONS BURSARY) – Method of selection – Opportunities and allowances.

04:51 Able to take wife – UNITED KINGDOM – UNITED STATES. ALAN last year HIGH SCHOOL stayed with grandparents.

05:48 Freedom of choice to observe – ENGLAND – OPEN UNIVERSITY – KEELE – EDINBURGH – OXFORD – CAMBRIDGE (special course) – LIVERPOOL – NOTTINGHAM.

06:51 MICHAEL STEVENS (LIVERPOOL and NOTTINGHAM) – Strategies – Explained.

08:11 Life changing interests – Self in constant touch with sons and 11 grandchildren. 09:27 Headmaster MIDDLE SCHOOL – UNIVERSITY EXTENSION (reply to advertisement) – Good referees – JACK GRIMALDI (SOUTHLAND TIMES) - J D SALMOND (Head of CHRISTIAN EDUCATION, Presbyterian Church) Self involved 10 years local CHRISTIAN EDUCATION (Religious Teaching in Schools)

10:44 [REFEREE]: RALPH HANAN (Attorney General and Member of Parliament for INVERCARGILL).

11:53 Self took position (University Extension) 1969 - 100th year of University of Otago.

12:08 [MENTIONS]: RALPH HANAN – SOUTHLAND SAVINGS BANK, DON STREET (now SIT property) – WESTPAC (Bank) – ROSLYN BUSH SCHOOL. Independent persons.

14:19 Self still holds copy of Application (UNIVERSITY EXTENSION) – copy on file.

15:02 End of Track 12.

TRACK 13

00:00 Lived WELLESLEY AVENUE since 1968 – alterations – Described.

01:14 [UNIVERSITY EXTENSION]: Predecessor lecturer in History. Expansion using seminars – Explained.

02:34 Self finished in 1990 Seminars – SCHOOL DENTAL SERVICE – INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS. TED KEATING of Industrial Relations Centre, Wellington.

03:54 [PROGRAMMES]: Industrial Relations – MASSEY (University) KOREA.

05:01 [UNIVERSITY EXTENSION]: Sole position with a secretary. Centre 128 MACMASTER STREET – AA (Automobile Association) changed signs. 06:02 Visiting lecturer interested in DAN DAVIN – Tour of relevant sites in city. BASILICA – FIRST CHURCH – RIALTO (TODD'S Auction Rooms) – REGENT THEATRE (now demolished) – BLUFF – PAUA HOUSE (now closed).

07:49 DAN DAVIN HOUSE. TIM SHADBOLT – Mentioned.

08:26 Sense of achievement in helping others to reach goals. NEIL BIRSS – Chief Reporter (Invercargill) – Degrees gained – Business manager THE PRESS (Christchurch newspaper).

09:33 3 Women from GORE – English – all gained degree. Teacher from WAIKAKA VALLEY.

09:56 Facilities used if available – MASSEY well set up now – DON BEWLEY (Extra Mural at MASSEY) Annual visits. 10:36 1969 7000 students at OTAGO UNIVERSITY – 1000 studying through MASSEY (from OAMARU south) – Presently 22 to 24,000 – many other not catered for.

11:18 From 1985 TELE-CONFERENCING – JACK SALMOND (ex POST OFFICE) Links OAMARU south – further afield including JERUSALEM.

12:11 UNIVERSITY EXTENSION DEPARTMENT no long exists.

12:31 Huge HOME SCIENCE programmes in SOUTHLAND - “Pants for Women”

13:07 Visit to VANCOUVER, CANADA – Teleconference Slogan.

13:33 Self ran TELECONFERENCES in city – long hours. Programmes for DOCTORS. Efforts to meet all programme requests.

14:45 Needs of ordinary people.

15:02 End of Track 13.

TRACK 14

00:01 Gain from learning by other means.

00:25 Idea – People (like NEIL BIRSS) write short outline.

00:37 Self has 2 page article “This Man Can Help You”

01:08 Diaries used to document comments.

01:51 End of Track 14

TRACK 15

00:09 [WEA – Workers Education Association]: First encounter Play Reading Group at HIGH SCHOOL – Memories recalled – JACK CAMERON.

02:19 WEA – New Zealand origin 1915 – established in INVERCARGILL – BRITISH concept. 1915-present day – always had roll in city (INVERCARGILL) – Lost SOUTHLAND EDUCATION BUILDING, TAY STREET – moved to MIDDLE SCHOOL. TED (E R) LATHAM – FLORENCE DAY – loan to buy building (STRANGS COFFEE HOUSE) – state of building described – set of stairs purchased.

05:10 1968-1998 – Loan paid off – Application for HISTORICAL STATUS. DOREEN FOX – MICK HESLIN – Community Support – Reports required.

06:44 CONSERVATION REPORT – specialist architect from DUNEDIN. Preservation of building – Approach MICK HESLIN (Architect) for advice. Two stages – Exterior 2001-2002 – Planning for major changeover.

08:05 Reference to booklet of people approached – COMMUNITY TRUST of SOUTHLAND – NEW ZEALAND LOTTERY GRANTS BOARD (HERITAGE) – INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST FOUNDATION – NEW ZEALAND FWEA – TERTIARY EDUCATION COMMISSION – P H VICKERY TRUST.

08:45 Building 3 storeys plus attic – NO lift – Application to VICKERY TRUST – Elderly and disabled people using building – Grant for lift totalled $80,000. MICK HESLIN – Mentioned.

10:23 Secondary School Adult Classes closed – LESLEY DU MEZ (from KINGSWELL HIGH SCHOOL) – Move to include AURORA COLLEGE off-site facility.

11:16 ESK STREET building under restoration for a year – TAY STREET house used. July 7 2007 – Building re-opened – BILL DONALDSON CONSTRUCTION (main contractor) 12:37 Alterations Described. 13:14 VIOLENCE SOUTHLAND – SENIORNET – Multiple uses – Named.

14:43 1968 – Principal MIDDLE SCHOOL – TED LATHAM – FLORENCE DAY

15:02 End of Track 15

TRACK 16

00:02 Knew TED LATHAM and FLORENCE DAY through WEA. Self UNIVERSITY REPRESENTATIVE on WEA COUNCIL.

00:44 MIDDLE SCHOOL classrooms used by WEA 1968 – courses similar to present time – response to public interests. OLWYN RAE with Public Speaking.

01:29 WEA a centre of development – ARTS SOCIETY – PHOTOGRAPHIC SOCIETY – CHINA PAINTING.

02:11 Formation of CITIZENS ADVICE BUREAU (CAB) initiated in 1978 – Explained. Difficulty finding place for programme – room offered in DEE STREET – moved to corner GALA and DEE STREETS [Gatekeeper's Lodge of old Southland Hospital].

04:05 Grant from MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION to start BUREAU – JILL MILNE (husband dentist) did initial planning. Now maybe one of busiest CITIZENS ADVICE BUREAUS in country.

04:31 CITIZENS ADVICE BUREAUS in other parts of NEW ZEALAND. Most funded by local authorities – Training programme – BILL SANDS.

06:00 Many interested people – advice available to all especially less advantaged – LAW SOCIETY – great asset.

07:03 Large Development Committee – BILL SANDS – LETTIE DOUGLAS (Nurse) - Organisation representatives.

08:15 Appeal of WEA to self and others.

08:44 TED LATHAM – Mentioned. Self attended PUBLIC SPEAKING classes – Contribution by Editors (SOUTHLAND) TIMES – LYNLEY DEAR.

09:49 Suggested use of attic in building – possible residence for artists – potters – writers.

10:30 Concept from BALTIMORE – weekend college – more staff needed. LESLEY (DU MEZ) – NICOLA (?WINTER)

11:44 Activities led by small group of people.

12:29 Self on WEA BOARD when appointed to UNIVERSITY EXTENSION – also on POLYTECHNIC COUNCIL.

13:12 Attitudes of some big institutions – threats and/or duplication.

13:55 Periods of no government funding – no grants – relied of local funders. EDUCATION DEPARTMENT – Mentioned.

14:49 ADULT EDUCATION IN NOTTINGHAM...

15:02 End of Track 16

TRACK 17

00:00 Professor from NOTTINGHAM … Instructed to reduce staff.

00:31 Professor at SYDNEY – not replaced when retired.

00:43 University Committee to look into work of UNIVERSITY EXTENSION. No long exists in OTAGO – TELECONFERENCING still used by some Departments.

01:30 JACK SALMOND organised technical side of TELECONFERENCING.

02:04 Self PRESIDENT WEA since 1980 – succeeded TED LATHAM (railway locomotive foreman) – people with vision acknowledged.

03:25 [PURCHASE of STRANG BUILDING]: ESK STREET opposite CITY COUNCIL – built in 1872 – Bought by McKINNON – Purchased from McKINNON.

04:55 Borrowed $25,000 – rebuilt by community support – Insured for about $2million. 05:32 LESLEY DU MEZ (University Graduate) – great asset.

06:45 On-going programme – real achievement. LESLEY DU MEZ – MANAGER – previously known as CO-ORDINATORS.

07:23 Need for continuous funding.

07:54 Self did not teach any WEA or UNIVERSITY EXTENSION classes – Ran very extensive programme – Several tutors to help MASSEY students – Small fee for students.

08:34 Own experience with EXTRA MURAL degree – Explained. MASSEY system – Explained.

09:40 Self understood difficulties encountered with EXTRA MURAL studies. Early days of MASSEY – Help from inter-active groups.

10:41 [MASSEY]: Acceptance criteria.

11:40 [WEA]: Sessions by MR ANGLEM [JIM] – teacher – Masters degree Development STEWART ISLAND.

13:17 Class sizes a factor – Reaction to 'Question Time' – Possible response.

14:46 Consider meetings and activities attended – 'Are there any questions?'

15:01 End of Track 16

TRACK 18

00:07 Little things can be important – Sensitive children.

00:36 Involvement with POLYTECHNIC – UNIVERSITY EXTENSION no represented. COMMERCE SUBJECTS – Problems with BUSINESS LAW – Multiple lecturers.

02:36 JURISPRUDENCE programme – Mentioned.

03:05 [ACCOUNTING]: Invercargill students not able to pass ACCOUNTING 3 – Solution explained.

04:06 Strategies developed over time – Key to own pass final paper POLITICS.

04:48 WEA representative on POLYTECHNIC COUNCIL – WEA dropped with changes. 05:35 POLYTECHNIC grew out of SOUTHLAND TECHNICAL COLLEGE. COMMUNITY COLLEGE eventually becoming SOUTHLAND INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY.

06:11 POLYTECHNIC could have funded senior position in WEA – Didn't do so.

06:57 Son JEFF current PRESIDENT of WEA – interest in computers – NZ LAW SOCIETY – President of SOCCER SOUTHLAND – NZ WEA Treasurer

08:43 WEA now SOUTHLAND EDUCATION – Example of community supporting local organisation.

09:08 INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST FOUNDATION – ENRICH LEARNING CENTRE. 09:29 Self involved with Curriculum for Gifted 1950s – short-lived. [ 09:51 [ENRICH CENTRE]: DEPARTMENT of EDUCATION – No financial contribution to local centre – No control. Good teachers – Equipment – going well.

10:42 Paper on ENRICHING THE CURRICULUM for GIFTED CHILDREN – read.

14:46 Self found all children important...

15:02 End of Track 18

TRACK 19

00:03 Schools to do best for every single pupil – Gifted children often seen as misfits.

01:19 Visit to ENRICH CENTRE – Described. Children with learning difficulties need encouragement.

03:04 “Enrich” paper written 60 years ago – still nothing in school curriculum. Main feature was enriching curriculum not acceleration.

04:15 Good teachers recognise interests and abilities of students.

05:08 Qualities of good teachers – Explained.

06:30 Recalls time at INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL in DUNEDIN.

06:55 Teacher/Pupil relationship likened to marriage.

07:35 Praise therapy – Good could become Very Good. Self realisation – motivation.

09:39 Scheme of Manners (MACANDREW INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL). Explaining to students the reactions to praise.

11:18 Neighbour's description of son – Described.

11:56 Personal discussion with interviewer. 14:16 Self spent most of life in SOUTHLAND. 15:02 End of Track 19

TRACK 20

00:04 Characteristics of SOUTHLANDERS. NUFFIELD FLATS (BRITAIN) – Travelling time compared with INVERCARGILL.

01:24 Lack of problems with travel to school – meal hours Previous years schools finished at different times.

02:06 Each person desires to achieve.

02:59 At school female staff no hair appointments Monday afternoon – Staff Meeting. Basic format of Meeting – Need to be open and straight-forward.

05:35 'Administration of the School' by POLASCHEK (? Devon Polascek)

07:28 Paper on 'Leadership' – Definition. Interpersonal influences. EINSTEIN – mentioned. Communication – to inform – to persuade

11:58 End of Track 20