One of the New Zealand team members seconded to Colonel Howard for the 1949 expedition was former government deer culler, Jack Luttrell. He had worked a couple of years earlier for the Wildlife Branch of the Department of Internal Affairs culling red deer in the Haast district of the West Coast. He also took part in a reconnaissance survey of Fiordland in 1948 in preparation for the Howard expedition. Now in his 70s, Mr Luttrell, has a clear memory of those earlier years hunting in much of what was undiscovered country. He is also one of the last surviving members of that 1949 US-led expedition and provides some details of what it involved. First, he talks about his formative hunting years and the development of a life-long interest.