H0257 ALEXANDER REKO (MICK) HESSELIN

Interviewer: Rebecca Amundson

Abstracter: Judith Christie

Interview: 4, 11, 18 June and 9 July 2016

TRACK One

4 June 2016

00:00 Interview identification. Born 1936. Father was FOREST FREDERICK HESSELIN. His father was SWEDISH and his mother BROWN - SCOTTISH - whose family went to Australia. One branch then came to MATAURA and the other stayed in QUEENSLAND.

01.46 Swedish grandfather worked for the BROWN FAMILY who had a carpentry business in MELBOURNE, where he met ANNIE BROWN and married her. Two children, GEORGE HESSELIN born MELBOURNE 1893.

2.20 Frederick George Hesselin [GRANDFATHER] contracted TB and sent his pregnant wife to the BROWN FAMILY in MATAURA while he settled up the business which he was then managing. Self’s father born after his father died in MELBOURNE.

02.55 When father married self’s mother he became a farmer, as mother inherited family farm from the GOURLAY – 200 acres of land designated by [Commissioner] MANTELL to REKO who was a chief in TUTURAU, granted 200 acres of land. ROBERT GOURLAY married Reko’s daughter TOKI/MARY and took over the land. CEMETERY on that land, where they are all buried.

03.40 Self’s mother was QUEENIE ALEXANDRA GOURLAY, daughter of ROBERT GOURLAY and TOKI MARY REKO. Farm situated on the back road between WYNDHAM and MATAURA, behind the TUTURAU NATIVE RESERVE. 40 acres of native reserve was spare land. In 1936 celebration of the BATTLE OF TUTURAU carried out. Describes.

05.15 No mention of REKO at the BATTLE OF TUTURAU – was probably designated to go to TUTURAU from KAIPOI with two wives to make sure the North Island fighters didn’t return. Battle was in 1836. REKO features in many history books. Describes.

06.50 MATAURA was a good place for Maori – lots of FOOD SOURCES - no PĀ there. In 1863 REKO took NATHANAEL CHALMERS, a prospective farmer, up the MATAURA RIVER as far as KINGSTON and then over the NEVIS and the KAWARAU GORGE, and showed him LAKES WAKATIPU, WANAKA and HAWEA. In WANAKA they took an ill NATHANAEL CHALMERS down the river on a raft down the CLUTHA RIVER to the BALCLUTHA area. REKO was given a COOKING POT for undertaking that task, which is now on the SOUTHLAND MUSEUM. Mentions REKO’S POINT on the CLUTHA RIVER.

09.30 200 acre farm inherited by self’s mother and her husband. Only two daughters left – other family members had moved away. Parents married in 1921 – took over the farm before marriage because mother looked after her father ROBERT GOURLAY. He landed in DUNEDIN and walked to MATAURA. Was a STONEMASON and became a FARMER. Built the PYLONS of the original J T THOMPSON BRIDGE at MATAURA, which still stands, and the stone culverts between the back road between MATAURA and WYNDHAM. May have also built stone houses. Met TOKI MARY and married her.

11.30 FARM was hilly with creeks in every gully. Faced west/south west and open to rough weather. Parents added to it with other MAORI LAND, and farm ended up being 350 acres. Mixed farm. SHEEP AND DAIRY HERD. Self helped on the farm. No power to the house until 1947. Battery radios. ROBERT GOURLEY built a house and planted oak trees – farm now known as The Oaks. Describes. Self and father built a new house on the farm.

14.15 After GRANDMOTHER’S SWEDISH HUSBAND died, she married PETER AITKEN, and they lived on a farm further down the road at TUTURAU – self’s interest in heritage began then.

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TRACK TWO

00.00 Property was a TWO STOREY HOUSE completely surrounded by macrocarpa trees – sparked self’s interest in heritage.

00.30 Earliest memory was 6TH BIRTHDAY – cake had a military tank on it, which self took to school. Found WWII hellish. Listened on the radio.

01.30 Lived three miles out of MATAURA so car picked up children to take them to school in Mataura. Car owned the CAMERONS, FRUITERERS in MATAURA. First car that picked up children was an Austin called Betsy – picked up MCKAYS, MITCHELLS etc. Had to walk home at night if the weather was fine. Also travelled to school in Morris cars. Describes

03.30 Sister and self dodged school one day, and saw a LANCASTER BOMBER flying low so shot home frightened. Describes.

05.00 Anxious time as a child during the war. People not registering to go to war were stigmatized. Placed cleared out of young men. POSTMASTER came with a telegram saying that OLDER BROTHER was severely wounded, and then visited again with the minister to report his death. Self was like his brother in appearance. When soldiers returned, self would be called by brother’s name by them.

07.45 THE DEPRESSION also had an effect on the family. MOTHER’S SISTER married and had several children. Her husband had difficulty finding work. Father had built a house in 1921 which survived until the 1950s, and to help the family father asked them to move back to the farm. They had 13 children – six or seven born at that time. Father got a job in a DIARY FACTORY and moved back to MATAURA.

09.40 Self’s mother said that they never handled money until after the war – finances dealt with by MERCANTILE FIRM. Family lived in two bedroom, one living room house – four children. Describes

10.50 Father played the BAGPIPES and kept children away while practicing. Owned a Model A truck called Lizzie, purchased in 1920s and went for years. DRIVER’S LICENCE arrived with the truck. Everyone crammed into the cab. Describes

12.40 Five year age gap with siblings, so close to COUSINS in MATAURA, and went for sleepovers.

13.20 Parents involved in protecting NATIVE RESERVE in front of the farm in 1936 – developed as a park. MEMORIAL TO THE BATTLE OF TUTURAU, playground and whare. Describes. Fell into disrepair when went under the ownership of the MATAURA BOROUGH COUNCIL, then leased out.

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TRACK THREE

00.00 MATAURA was very industrial – FREEZING WORKS, PAPER MILL, SUGAR MILK FACTORY. Describes. Lots of separatism between Mataura and Gore re schools, sport. This finished when MATAURA MAYOR was also GORE MAYOR.

01.30 While grandfather was alive, WEATHERBURNS, MCKAYS, GLOVERS neighbours. SCOTTISH FAMILIES, lot of them spoke Gaelic, and lots of bagpipe playing.

02.20 Father Swedish descent, his MOTHER from SCOTTISH BORDERS, whose family bred horses. Father identified more with Scottish side. Describes. Loved reading, especially Scottish history. Owned one of the oldest sets of BAGPIPES in New Zealand.

04.24 Mentions Mataura families – CAMERONS, MCKAYS, MCGOWANS, PERKINS, GLOVERS.

05.00 Never thought about MOTHER having MAORI DESCENT, although in early years may have been difficult.

05.30 Pressure to put self in TUTURAU SCHOOL because of lowering numbers, but ended up going to MATAURA SCHOOL.

06.20 Mother did not really speak Maori, but close association with MAORI RELATIVES in BLUFF and RIVERTON. Mother attended many TANGI, including at COLAC BAY. Self met mother’s sister in ROTORUA, and was moved by the experience.

07.20 PRIVATE CEMETERY at TUTURAU on the farm, so self has a very close tie to the farm. Farm sold in the 1980s. NGAI TAHU claim the cemetery, but self and sister and a cousin in Mataura are all TRUSTEES. Describes

08.40 Further information about TUTURAU SCHOOL vs MATAURA SCHOOL.

09.45 Mother’s sister and her husband had thirteen children, many of whom married NORTH ISLAND MAORI. Although the family was happy with the cemetery being close to the homestead, concerns about REKO’S REMAINS being removed by Maori because he was buried with GREENSTONE. One or two attempts during the war and when freezing workers came down from the north island. Describes Reko’s grave now marked. PARENT’S ASHES buried on the farm.

11.30 Self enjoyed primary school, apart from the dental clinic. Good bunch of other pupils – plans to visit some of them. Visited one fellow pupil in Lumsden recently.

13.00 Had one brilliant teacher at primary school called JAMES SMITH. School building had outgrown pupil numbers so senior class used an annex of the TOWN HALL. Had another Australian teacher called JOHN LUMSDEN – lax teaching. Then James Meredith Smith commenced teaching and made a huge difference. Latterly saw a book on Mataura in a bookshop and noted a photograph of James Smith on the back page.

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TRACK FOUR

00.00 Bought a copy of the book and everyone self has met at school jubilees would like to meet up with JAMES SMITH again. Teacher caned on the hand, including caning the headmaster’s son JOHN MILLER. He was strict but got results. Describes

02.00 Infant mistress when started school was MISS SPEDEN. Describes.

02.45 Announced the END OF THE WAR at school, and children were allowed to go home at lunchtime. Saw PAPER MILL STAFF on the way home marching and singing in celebrating. Describes

03.50 Sadness regarding BROTHER’S DEATH in the war, especially when brother’s friends came home. Because self looked like brother, would be called by his name. Parents received telegram informing of brother’s death by a POSTMASTER arriving by car. Tough time. Describes

05.10 When parents came off the farm they lived in a house in GEORGETOWN, next to the house which self lived in, and self looked after them for ten years. A person in Invercargill had nursed self’s brother overseas before he died, and visited them, which upset them. Describes BROTHER’S DEATH.

06.20 No toys or luxuries during the war. One Christmas self received an orange, and homemade gifts were made. Listened to the World News at 9.00pm every night.

07.00 Commenced secondary school at SOUTHLAND TECHNICAL COLLEGE in 1949. Travelled for two and a half year travelled in the NEWS BUS from MATAURA, then boarded in town at 20 PRINCES STREET with a family friend. Then flatted and was a housemaster at SOUTHLAND BOYS HIGH SCHOOL for some years. Describes. Worked for the SOUTHLAND EDUCATION BOARD.

08.30 Some country girls couldn’t dance, and so self formed a group to teach them dancing. Association with BOYS HIGH HOSTEL has continued.

09.10 TECHNICAL COLLEGE was a shock after country school. First day on the bus to school was shared with a pupil from GORE, ROSS DODDS, who died 20 years ago. Recently caught up with Ross’s sister at a funeral.

10.10 Took a BUILDING COURSE at TECHNICAL COLLEGE. Classes graded – self was in TA1. General studies first, then specialized. Decided on DRAUGHTING and ARCHITECTURE when sitting SCHOOL CERTIFICATE. Also did UNIVERSITY ENTRANCE at Technical College – this was rare and had to work by yourself.

11.30 SELF’S FATHER was an ex-carpenter and grandfather was a cabinet maker. Brother took over the farm, so parents were supportive of building course, and then extra-mural study. Went to AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY for a year.

12.30 Worked in a NEWMARKET BRANCH of the EDUCATION OFFICE. Main office was in HAMILTON. Describes.

13.40 Top EYE SURGEON in Auckland hired SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE STUDENTS as GARDENERS. A colleague at the Education Office in Hamilton, JOHN PATTERSON had been a gardener for the surgeon and continued to help from Hamilton. Self went with John when he travelled to Auckland to work.

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TRACK FIVE

00.00 A vacancy in a flat came up in Auckland, and self obtained a JOB GARDENING for the EYE SURGEON for three years. Describes. Continued with part time studies at UNIVERSITY. Little free time, and didn’t like Auckland because of difficulty getting around.

01.20 Eye surgeons name DR CECIL BETAR (SP?), who traveled to Europe skiing regularly, and wife also travelled the world, and they had a maid. Different lifestyle. Lived in a heritage villa. Doctor moved into an apartment in Parnell after wife died. The villa was sold and seven dwellings now on the site.

02.20 An Education Board draughtsperson’s job involved using STANDARD PLANS. Research and plans done by a SPECIALIST ARCHITECTURE GROUP in NELSON, which was unsuitable when planning buildings for Southland. Self became unhappy with the job. Describes. Education Board worked out of the previous SOUTHLAND GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING in FORTH STREET. Self went in to the PRIVATE SECTOR.

05.10 Worked for LOU SIMPSON in private sector, then approached by JOHN HERD from FORD GRAY DERBY, so worked for them.

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TRACK SIX

11 June 2016

00.00 Took BUILDING COURSE at SOUTHLAND TECHNICAL COLLEGE, but didn’t want to be a builder, so trained to be a draughter. Applied to work at the SOUTHLAND EDUCATION BOARD OFFICE. Drawing at school very different to drawing in a draughting room. Two women in the office, HELEN MONTEITH and DOROTHY LINES. Architect was FRED GREENWOOD from CANTERBURY. Describes job.

03.20 INVERCARGILL at the time was booming, with new suburbs WAVERLEY and HAWTHORNDALE, requiring NEW SCHOOLS. Education board received a grant for work, and building was carried out very quickly. Used up national surplus of funding because they were ready to build school buildings. Became frustrated with standard plans – no real architecture. Whole of Southland covered, and a good team to work with. Supervisor was STEVE JENSON. Describes work processes. Self visited every school in Southland over the years.

07.10 Self studied at night time – got down to four hours of sleep a night. Worked until 2.00 am at the office, then went home to sleep, then back to the office at 6.00 am. Was 18 when started work at SOUTHLAND EDUCATION OFFICE.

08.00 TECHNICAL DRAWING at school different from at work. Describes process of drawing.

13.10 Went working in AUCKLAND and HAMILTON, staff impressed that self could draw a LINEN TRACING in a day.

14.00 Studied COURSES BY CORRESPONDENCE after starting work, then became involved with the SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE. Describes.

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TRACK SEVEN

00.00 Describes the process of DRAWING/DRAUGHTING.

02.00 Studied for a number of years part time at the SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE. Moved to SOUTH AUCKLAND EDUCATION BOARD based in HAMILTON – covered from RAGLAN to EAST COAST and down to TAUPO. Good architectural division in Hamilton so job more interesting. NOEL EARLS was the EDUCATION BOARD ARCHITECT with two deputies. Worked from two prefab classrooms. Describes

04.00 Animosity in Invercargill when self left the job there. When first arrived in HAMILTON, given a project for the addition to a small building to a SCHOOL in SOUTHLAND. Made sure the job was done well.

05.20 Some animosity between the GENERAL MANAGER OF SOUTHLAND EDUCATION BOARD and the CHIEF ARCHITECT. Describes

06.15 Self was in late 20s when moved to HAMILTON. Then worked in Auckland, but worked too hard so needed a break away and returned to INVERCARGILL and the EDUCATION BOARD. Then left and worked in private architectural practice.

07.15 Designed a block at the SOUTHLAND GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL, after which disagreement with Chief Architect led to leaving the job at the Education Board.

08.00 Knew the architects in town. Had known JOHN HURLEY, an architect, in Auckland. John worked in MANAPOURI then moved to Invercargill and worked for FORD GRAY DERBY as a partner. Self started working for LOU SIMPSON part time at night to get experience and worked two jobs for a while. Then worked for FORD GRAY DERBY AND HERD to work for them – a well-established firm with a wider range of projects.

10.00 Ford Gray Derby were on the top floor of the BRISCOES BUILDING in DEE STREET. Describes. Mentions NORMAN DERBY and JIM GRAY. Describes DRAUGHTING PROCESS.

13.15 During the first week, heard noises on the floor above, and was told it was PIGEONS. Itchy from pigeon mites and ledges full of pigeon poo. Undertook lots of draughting work for buildings around Southland.

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TRACK EIGHT

00.00 FORD GRAY DERBY considered shifting to other premises in Forth Street, which had been designed by architect ARTHUR MILNE. Describes Opted to move to the top floor of where the HONG KONG RESTAURANT in ESK STREET is situated. Describes

01.30 Separate office in building leased to STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TONY MAJOR. Describes

02.45 JOHN HERD left the firm after a scandal. Describes When he left, self asked by other partners to FINISH DEGREE, and took a year off to do so in 1975. Adult students had a better relationship with lecturers. MICK CUTTER was one of the lecturers, and was also a partner of a big Auckland firm. Describes

08.00 While undertaking the course, NORMAN DERBY came up to Auckland and he and MICK CUTTER made contact and self went along for a drink at the AUCKLAND CLUB. Describes

09.45 DIPLOMA received in 1977, and rejoined the practice. Knew the other architects in Invercargill – mentions SMITH RICE AND LAWRENCE, BARHAM AND BARHAM, MCARTHUR AND BOGUE (?), ROD CAMERON, LOU SIMPSON, ALLAN MOLLISON. Describes

11.15 ARCHITECTS INSTITUTE set up. describes.

12.15 Architects Institute helped in saving the CIVIC THEATRE FRONTAGE in the mid-1980s. ALAN BALLANGER SNR was the CITY ENGINEER at the time. Describes

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TRACK NINE

00.00 When working at SOUTHLAND EDUCATION BOARD, worked with two women draughtspeople. FRANCES BERRY worked with LOU SANSON and was a very good draughtsperson.

01.30 WARREN AND MAHONEY ARCHITECTS in Christchurch won the CHRISTCHURCH TOWN HALL COMPETITION. Describes.

02.50 WOMEN DRAUGHTSPEOPLE also employed by MINISTRY OF WORKS, and another firm. Employed only if males couldn’t be found, but good draughtspeople. One draughtsperson, Dorothy, married a person who worked for RAY WHITE and did their draughting.

04.00 FRANCES BERRY worked for MOIR, NEW AND JENKINS, who worked on the WEST ARM PROJECT. Describes.

04.40 ERNIE NEW had started work at the INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL, and had designed the MARTIN STREET SHOPS.

06.20 Self proud of the project to build RURU SCHOOL at WAIKIWI while with the Education Board, which had specific requirements for students. Also project for SOUTHLAND GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL. Describes

08.15 LEN WOLF worked at the EDUCATION BOARD and helped to design two schools in Southland which were quite different.

9.00 Chairman of the Education Board at the time was a MAJOR RICE – military accreditation from WW1.

09.30 Self went to work for LOU SIMPSON who used a SCANDANAVIAN style of architecture. Mentions MCARTHUR AND BOGUE, who designed the BASILICA PRESBYTERY.

10.00 Mentions other well established Architectural firms – SMITH, RICE & LAWRENCE, and FORD GRAY & DERBY. MONICA BARHAM, who was the granddaughter of A C Ford’s daughter, married CECIL BARHAM. COLIN CAMERON designed an outstanding house in ALBERT STREET for OLWYN RAE.

11.30 When working for the EDUCATION BOARD, no discussion with client, but client relationship important in private practice.

12.30 Once when in Christchurch with JOHN HERD, ran into MILES WARREN outside his office and discussed WARREN MAHONEY designed house on the top of MOUNT PLEASANT and other matters. Describes Invited into his office, and was very impressed with it.

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TRACK TEN

00.00 Architects design to styles that people like. Describes client/architect relationship.

03.15 Self didn’t have a style, but took lead from clients. Need to conform when undertaking large projects, e.g. FREEZING WORKS and the BORSTAL EXTENSION.

04.15 Self designed two houses which were very successful because met client’s needs. Mentions A C FORD’S domestic architecture, in the ARTS AND CRAFTS style.

05.00 Designed a house in COMPANY BAY in DUNEDIN for farmers from Scotts Gap. Describes. Describes adjacent house to the site at Company Bay.

11.50 Designed a house on the back road to ARROWTOWN. Describes.

14.00 Designed the INVERCARGILL RAILWAY STATION – a political disaster.

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TRACK ELEVEN

00.00 INVERCARGILL RAILWAY STATION – difference of opinion as to design. Describes

01.25 Designed the frontage of the former SOUTHLAND BUILDING SOCIETY on the south side of TAY STREET. Describes.

03.00 Carried out a lot of work for the HOSPITAL, and for A.C. MILLER’S FACTORY on ONSLOW STREET. Extension to the Prison put up in less than three weeks. Describes

05.30 Designed the milk treatment station on Nith Street in the 1970s. Describes

08.40 Designed the OBSTETRIC BLOCK at KEW HOSPITAL, and other projects including the MORTUARY and OPERATING THEATRES. Describes. E R ORSON, an EARLY ARCHITECT in Invercargill, designed the original part of Hew Hospital, taken over by A C FORD. WILSON designed the main entrance building and two wards adjacent. MAJOR FIRE went through building – LORNE HOSPITAL used while rebuilding. Describes.

11.30 Involved in the design of QUEENSTOWN HOSPITAL and OLD PEOPLE’S HOME – battle with Otago over who should run the hospital. Describes.

14.00 Firm involved in INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST work, but self refused to work on these projects as didn’t like the Trust’s principles. PETER BAXTER and NEIL MCDOWALL undertook that work instead. ARTHUR MILNE also worked on ILT projects.

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TRACK TWELVE

00.00 A C FORD designed more houses than others – many houses architecturally designed. Went by the board when group housing came in. After the CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE, engineers became more successful. Many large international buildings now built to be engineering marvels, but unpleasant to look at.

01.20 LONDON AND NEW YORK ARCHITECTURE and the philosophy of architecture described.

05.00 Architecture needed to keep human scale and interest in the history and design of buildings. Self loves BRICK BUILDINGS, but not allowed to use bricks now. ST STEPHENS CHURCH and FIRST CHURCH mentioned. Describes

06.45 GALVANISED IRON now used for building. Describes

08.30 Lack of young people learning trades and apprenticeships. Mentions WINDSOR CASTLE FIRE, and shortage of artisans.

10.10 Last heritage work self undertook showed that tradespeople didn’t know the ways of doing things.

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TRACK THIRTEEN

18 June 2016

00.00 Interest in heritage may have come from family background– GRANDFATHER SWEDISH CARPENTER living in AUSTRALIA. FATHER was also a carpenter. Visited grandmother’s house in KYLEDALE, between MATAURA and WYNDHAM around the age of six. Two storey house was vacated, surrounded by high hedges. Was impressed by architectural details.

02.50 Representative of the ARCHITECTURAL INSTITUTE on the SOUTHLAND BRANCH of the HISTORIC PLACES TRUST.

03.45 Appreciates the work in heritage buildings that was done by hand, including tongue in groove floors hand sawn and planed. No treated timber, so particular timbers selected describes.

05.45 NZHPT started in the 1950s in New Zealand, with growing realization of losing important buildings. Some work before WWII, then started in 1952. ALF POOLE was local Chairman, public not really on board, so committed people needed to protest demolitions. There were originally three protection recommendations, but now two levels of protection. Describes

08.15 DEVELOPERS have stepped in and now even CATEGORY 1 BUILDINGS can be at risk. Cost of renovating heritage buildings prohibitive. Mentions CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE.

09.20 People become blasé about heritage in their own locality, even though heritage buildings make up the fabric of a town or city.

10.20 When NZHPT first started, idea was to purchase heritage buildings when then became museum pieces. Mentions heritage dwelling in AUCKLAND. Unsuccessful method, and now concentration on adaptive re-use.

11.55 HERITAGE NZ likes to keep the building and all the changes to it over the years.

12.20 Other people on the NZHPT local committee included LOU SIMPSON, ALF POOLE, RUSSELL BECK and various other people. Selected because of their interest in heritage.

13.30 Animosity towards NZHPT in the beginning from owners of heritage buildings, concerned about constraints.

14.10 Self believes that not all heritage should be kept, and not all heritage is good. However, there are some brilliant buildings in Southland. Mentions DOC coverage of heritage in FIORDLAND.

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TRACK FOURTEEN

00.00 Little recording of heritage in the TE ANAU area, important that this happens.

00.40 CENTRAL OTAGO BRANCH of HERITAGE NZ recently established. Landscapes protection important. Self concerned about QUEENSTOWN ARCHITECTURE and LANDSCAPES.

02.15 Heritage is identified mainly by local people who had knowledge of heritage sites.

03.00 SOUTHLAND BRANCH has now been DISBANDED and Heritage NZ run from DUNEDIN OFFICE.

04.30 Important to have heritage building owners on board.

05.00 Former MAJESTIC THEATRE unable to be saved – no adaptive re-use for it.

05.50 Invercargill lack of a ‘boom time’ means that more heritage buildings remain. The JOHN GREY SURVEY OF INVERCARGILL BUILDINGS identified 164 buildings in the central business district to be protected.

06.20 BILL WATT (ICC DIRECTOR) and self considered preventing the demolition of a garage block on cnr of LEET AND DEE STREET. Reinforced building by old wire from TRAMWAYS. Describes. In the end agreed to its demolition.

09.30 Referrals to the DUNEDIN OFFICE of HERITAGE NZ, and sometimes the CHRISTCHURCH OFFICE. Common sense usually prevailed.

11.00 MAUREEN FOX became PRESIDENT of the LOCAL BRANCH OF NZHPT and put the branch in a very good position. Excellent when raising funding, utilised money from INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST and SOUTHLAND COMMUNITY TRUST. First building saved and renovated was a FORMER ANGLICAN CHURCH AT CLIFTON, now owned by COOK ISLAND CHURCH. Describes.

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TRACK FIFTEEN

00.00 Further description of the renovation of the CLIFTON CHURCH, including the toilet block. Mentions STANLEY FOX.

03.30 People came from all over the South Island to attend the opening ceremony. MINISTERS all dressed in white. Many donations received. Describes

06.15 One of the benefactors of the Church project was the STOUT FUND in WELLINGTON. This Trust has also been utilized for RIVERTON PROJECTS.

07.00 BELL for the church was returned from ST JOHN’S CHURCH. Opening ceremony impressive – lots of singing.

08.00 Second project undertaken by the HISTORIC PLACES TRUST was the FORMER NEW SOUTH WALES BANK on the north east corner of DEE AND TAY STREETS. Self volunteered to go on TROOPERS MEMORIAL CORNER TRUST set up to save it. BRUCE MAHER was CHAIR, MAUREEN FOX, TOM PRYDE, STEVE CANNY members. Building was in desperate condition. Morale in Invercargill was very low, and building vacated by WESTPAC and sold to private investor, who also purchased LENNEL.

10.15 Another investor bought building, planning to turn it into an escort agency.

10.55 Enthusiastic team, with council support. Mentions CR NEIL BONIFACE and COUNCIL MANAGER PAMELA GARE. MAYOR involved in advertising in the beginning.

11.15 Bank was in very poor condition and was purchased for $30,000 with funding from the SOUTHLAND HERITAGE BUILDING PRESERVATION TRUST. Two fires through it – a third of the roof was gone and vandals, street kids and pigeons had occupied it.

12.00 Fundraising commenced to restore the building. Price obtained for STRUCTURAL STRENGTHENING, which was done for $150,000. Building stripped out and found that WESTPAC had done unconsented work. Outside of the building done first. Previous owner re-roofed it. Describes condition of building.

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TRACK SIXTEEN

00.00 Further description of renovation of former BANK OF NEW SOUTH WALES building. Pigeon droppings were a foot deep throughout the building. Instruction from NZHPT that heritage features needed to be retained as much as possible. Worked with local builder ALAN GIESEG. Describes.

01.50 Difficult to select EXTERIOR COLOUR SCHEME, as building faced both south and west. Describes

04.00 Many approaches from firms to tenant building. PUMPKIN PATCH became the tenant and fitted out interior and installed heat pumps.

05.20 Problems with T&G FLOORING on the ground floor Describes.

06.20 Building REPAINTED, but not successful. Cost $60,000.

07.30 Recent problems with TAGGING.

08.20 CITY COUNCIL owned the ADJACENT ANZ BUILDING on TAY STREET, and was considering demolition. Instead, building kept as a COVERED CAR PARK. Describes

10.00 MAUREEN FOX and self became involved in the restoration of GREENHILLS CHURCH. Approached by the GREENHILLS TRUST GROUP. Interesting meetings. ALAN GIESEG employed again as builder. Describes

13.00 Money raised, including from the NZ ALUMINIUM SMELTER, COMMUNITY TRUST, and BLUFF SOURCES. No electricity in the church. Windows rebuilt, floor jacked up, replaced weatherboards, re-roofed. Opening ceremony held. MAUREEN FOX donated items for display.

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TRACK SEVENTEEN

00.00 Further description of GREENHILLS CHURCH RESTORATION. Problem with dampness on walls because of presence of trees.

01.15 Raised $700,000 for restoration of FORMER BANK OF NEW SOUTH WALES, $100,000 of it direct donations by local people. Two year project. Stimulus for the first INNER CITY UPGRADE. Mid to late 1990s.

02.30 Open days held during restoration of bank. MAYOR TIM SHADBOLT involved. Describes

03.20 Public unable to access main doors to former bank to use PUMPKIN PATCH because of weather, so car park to the east necessary.

04.30 When the FORMER BANK OF NEW SOUTH WALES restored, city was at a low ebb. Firms gave generously of their time and their names are recorded in the building. Describes

05.50 Part of MEZZANINE FLOOR of the bank used by HISTORIC PLACES TRUST for Branch meetings. INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST supplied carpet and furniture. Local architect DAVID MOLLISON built meeting and other tables using wood from a former shoe shop. Self undertook the architectural work.

07.15 PIGEONS a real and continuing problem and building had to be pigeon proofed at a cost of $9,000. Wire prongs and wire put on all surfaces. CITY COUNCIL also helped to get rid of the pigeons.

09.00 Open days continued to be held. Ongoing battle with TAGGING on the building – anti-tagging treatments used.

09.30 FORMER BANK OF NEW ZEALAND on BANK CORNER purchased by a religious group, who built an ampitheatre inside it and it operates as a church. WEST WALL WINDOWS worked on, but need more work. Describes.

11.00 NATIONAL BANK on the other corner privately owned and a very sound building with a concrete roof. Designed by BRODERICK.

11.50 When the former Bank of New South Wales completed, suggestions that YMCA BUILDING be restored, but decided against it.

13.10 Inspection carried out on the YULE HOUSE, THE OLDEST HOUSE IN INVERCARGILL, on NESS STREET, moved in the 1930s from its original site. Describes. Vote to restore it held on the footpath outside the dwelling. Had been in private hands, inherited by the niece of the last owner.

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TRACK EIGHTEEN

00.00 Further describes condition of the YULE HOUSE. Purchased by HISTORIC PLACES TRUST. $570,000 raised for restoration. Describes

01.30 A lot of work on the dwelling done voluntarily. Builder ALAN GIESEG used. Shingle shake roof replaced – originally $57,000 quoted to supply the roof tiles, but ended up costing $17,000.

03.00 Worked closely with GUY WILLIAMS and the DUNEDIN NZHPT. Guy helped to strip out the house, using a local youth group. Describes.

04.00 YULE HOUSE raised up and STEEL BEAMS put through the building. Top floor used for levels. BB KING HOUSE REMOVAL FIRM used to raise house. Describes

06.20 BILL RICHARDSON and the BILL RICHARDSON GROUP very helpful. Very good to work with. Provided all the concrete for the Yule House project and also for other projects.

07.50 People had been living in Yule House, but condition was very poor. Describes.

08.30 When self worked at EDUCATION BOARD next to the house, it was owned by an elderly couple, the RONALDS, who kept the house immaculate. Outbuildings not in good condition. Last owner loved birds and animals. Windows left up so cats could get in and out.

10.20 While the house stood empty before renovation, condition deteriorated. SECURITY FENCE needed to be installed. New floor required, but many floorboards re-used.

12.00 Yule House is fully insulated. SHINGLE ROOFS not permitted under the Building Code, so impervious roofing material used under the roof. Describes

14.15 Suitable FIREPLACES found around the province.

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TRACK NINETEEN

00.00 Further description of renovation of YULE HOUSE, including fireplaces and hearths and benchtops.

01.40 MAUREEN and PAT FOX researched house, disagreed with some aspects of its history. House originally built on corner of FORTH and NESS STREET by a German man and his friend, who married sisters. House was split down the middle. Describes layout of house.

04.50 FRONT DOOR was rebuilt – originally a much wider opening. Wood for front door came from former stairs. Describes

05.50 YULE HOUSE most satisfying project to work on for self. Worked with a paint shop on Spey Street, who helped with INTERIOR DECORATING. AMERICAN WALLPAPERS on scrim. Describes and shows examples of original wallpaper and nails.

09.30 New Zealand broke at the time of building Yule House, so TOKENS used instead of money. Shows example.

10.35 Latest project SOUTHLAND HERITAGE BUILDING PRESERVATION TRUST renovation of SINCLAIR COTTAGE in NIGHTCAPS. Describes

12.00 Involved in strengthening of E-GLASS BUILDING on the CORNER OF FORTH AND NITH STREET. SECOND MASONIC BUILDING, with those features. Describes. Three Masonic buildings in Invercargill.

13.40 After retirement, involved in restoration of ST MARY’S BASILICA on TYNE STREET, with MCDOWELL ARCHITECTS. Describes.

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TRACK TWENTY

00.00 BRICKWORK OF BASILICA waterproofed. TOMMY MCDOWELL contracted to fix the brickwork. Describes.

03.30 Only one window within the church had enough glass to colour match to what was required – rest destroyed by stones. ROSE WINDOW at the back of the church remained safe. WINDOWS RENOVATED describes.

05.25 Describes ROSE WINDOW. Restored by ? STEWART in ROTORUA, who also restored the window in ST JOHN’S CHURCH, TAY STREET.

06.20 Self wanted to remove a PORCH ADDITION on the east side of the church which led to a PRIVATE CHAPEL the NUNS used. However, the porch remains.

07.20 Self’s role is usually ‘hands on’ during restoration, as well as preparing specifications, drawings and applications for building permits, record keeping and supervision.

08.30 Involved in restoration of WEA on ESK STREET, bringing it up to 66% earthquake strengthening. Worked with RON WALKER. NZ HISTORIC PLACES TRUST registered building. REROOF and WEATHERPROOFING WALLS most important. BRICKWORK on the front of building in very poor condition. Describes

10.50 WEA staff moved out, and building stripped out and STRUCTURAL STEEL FRAME inserted. New ACCESSIBLE STAIRCASE and LIFT SHAFT installed. Brickwork reinforced with a concrete layer. Describes.

12.30 $600,000 raised for WEA upgrade. Money donated by the VICKERY TRUST in CHRISTCHURCH to make the building accessible for the elderly. Describes

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TRACK TWENTY ONE

00.00 VICKERY TRUST donated another $30,000 for renovation of WEA building.

00.45 Describes FIREPROOFING of the building. Staircases improved. Mentions RAY HARPER, CHAIR of the INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST, who assisted with fund raising.

03.30 WEA building was originally the STRANGS BUILDING. Describes architecture of the building. FIRST INSTANT COFFEE made in the building, along with spices. Owned by an established Invercargill family, the STRANGS, who lived on the corner of MARY and YARROW STREET. Mentions STRANG TOMBSTONE at the EASTERN CEMETERY.

06.30 Involved with the interior restoration of ST JOHN’S ANGLICAN CHURCH on TAY STREET. Outside of the building had been done. Building is DAMP because of the shading from the INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL BUILDING to the west. Describes.

08.00 Church has BORER. Original part of church designed by MCKENZIE AND GILBERTSON, and E R WILSON. Funds raised for interior. ALAN GIESEG was to undertake the work. Describes. BARRY HELM took over the work when ALAN GIESEG became ill. Difficult relationships. Describes.

12.50 TIMBER WORK in the ceiling and trusses oil sprayed. Window facing on to Tay Street is worth $1m – ENGLISH WINDOW. Describes

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TRACK TWENTY TWO

00.00 Further describes ST JOHNS CHURCH RESTORATION.

00.30 Assisted in restoration of ST MARY’S CHURCH in RIVERTON. ALAN GIESEG was the builder and did a great job. Much of the COPPER used on the tower. Building had not been bolted on its foundation. Removal of MACRACARPA TREES across the road meant the building deteriorated. Describes

01.50 Designed a PAVED AREA in front of the door of the church.

02.30 Describes restoration of the TOWER of the church and protecting the church from rain.

03.25 Currently involved with SOUTHLAND HERITAGE BUILDING PRESERVATION TRUST, which is restoring CAPTAIN HOWELL’S COTTAGE on NAPIER STREET, RIVERTON. Dwelling remained in the family through the generations. Mentions EVA WILSON, who lived there. Now lived in by great grandson of JOHN AND KOHIKOHI, NEVILLE WILSON. John Howell was married to Kohikohi and had a son and a daughter, then when she died married CAROLINE BROWN and had a large family. Howell owned lots of land through to KINGSTON through his MAORI WIFE.

05.00 Cottage reportedly built on MAORI OWNED LAND with TIMBER brought in from AUSTRALIA in 1837. However, no Australian timber found in the building. Lots of ARCHAEOLOGICAL WORK done on the cottage. Describes. Early photograph shows a MAORI FOOD STORE on the site, and self believes that is the original 1837 house. Main house is probably 1850s.

07.30 Lots of INTERMARRIAGE in the early days of settlement between whalers, sealers and local Maori – 70%. Made for a more stable society.

07.50 Conservation architect recommends that HOWELL COTTAGE represents changes over the years.

08.30 About to give a talk at the library about early Invercargill architecture.

08.40 Involved in ANDERSON PARK ART GALLERY COMMITTEE from a heritage point of view. Became President. Mentions JOHN HUSBAND. Need to staff the art gallery. Mentions HELEN NICHOL. Anderson Park building closed. Asked the INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL for funding for storage rooms. Describes.

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TRACK TWENTY THREE

9 July 2016

00.00 Became involved in ANDERSON PARK ART GALLERY through MAUREEN FOX. Went on to Committee as an advisor for the building. Provided advice and assisted ROBIN PAGAN of INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL PARKS AND RESERVES. Became the President of the Committee. JOHN HUSBAND retired after 60 years of curating the art gallery. Mentions ARTHUR [MICHAEL?] DEAKER of SOUTHLAND BOYS HIGH SCHOOL, Mr HEWATT who was MAYOR OF INVERCARGILL, who started the collection. Originally housed in the basement of THOMPSON AND BEATTIES on Tay Street. Describes

02.50 ANDERSON HOUSE became vacant when LADY ANDERSON died, and house and grounds donated to the INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL for the use of the public. House used as an ART GALLERY. The council paid towards the running of the gallery. JOHN HUSBAND employed as the CURATOR. Members of the committee in the early days chose important pieces of art to display. Mostly New Zealand and local art. Collection added to through the years.

05.30 Stand out pieces include GOLDIE, HOTERE, very good New Zealand artists and local artists. Mentions local artists TREVOR MOFATT, BILL MOORE from RIVERSDALE. Value of art over $4 million.

06.30 JOHN HUSBAND resigned the year self became president, HELEN NICOL his assistant before retiring. Search for a new curator, applications from all over the world. STEPHEN DAVIES employed. Describes Stephen Davies had a teaching background - school pupils encouraged to become involved in art.

08.20 Standard of gallery needed to be brought up to that other galleries – very hard with smaller staff numbers. Describes

09.45 GALLERY CLOSED because of earthquake risk. INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL had building reviewed by an engineering firm OPUS. Self critical of decisions made. Describes.

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TRACK TWENTY FOUR 00.00 Further description of strengthening of ANDERSON HOUSE.

00.30 Self In discussion with ROBIN PAGAN from INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL PARKS AND RESERVES, self believed no need to paint the exterior plaster of the building. Describes

03.30 Money saved from not painting exterior should be spent on the timber on the building describes

05.00 Lack of INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL supervision of painting, so inferior work. Describes

06.30 ANDERSON HOUSE has a WELSH SLATE ROOF and CAST IRON SPOUTING. Describes

09.00 SNOW EVENT resulted in spouting on west side of the house collapse on to the marble entrance steps, damaging them.

09.30 TIMBER SHUTTERS on the windows provide balance to the building. Made of CEDAR. Painted with ACRYLIC PAINT – poor job. Describes.

12.10 Before the closure due to EARTHQUAKE RISK, were in the process of upgrading STORAGE OF THE ARTWORK. Running out of storage space, so approached the City Council to build a NEW BLOCK to the east of the building as a new art gallery and storage space. Describes

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TRACK TWENTY FIVE

00.00 Further describes possible design of a second art gallery at ANDERSON PARK. INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL said no to funding project.

00.40 Risk of using the residential quality of ANDERSON HOUSE when making it a commercial building. LIFT would be required. Describes

02.15 INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL left committee in the dark regarding future EARTHQUAKE STRENGTHENING. After two years, researched buildings in Invercargill, and was keen to use a building on LEVEN STREET as a TEMPORARY GALLERY. Currently looking for a suitable, more permanent gallery.

05.30 Majority of the visitors to the ANDERSON PARK GALLERY were tourists. Self felt prejudice against Anderson Park because of its location outside the city centre. Important that a new gallery be within the city centre.

07.00 Describes problems of developments on the periphery on the edges of the city centre. Mentions SUPERMARKET DEVELOPMENT on the corner of TAY STREET and ELLES ROAD.

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TRACK TWENTY SIX

00.00 INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL has offered various buildings as POSSIBLE GALLERIES, including a building on DON STREET describes. Keen to form an association with all ART GROUPS in Invercargill and Southland. Some collections not looked after properly.

02.20 ANDERSON PARK ART GALLERY name changed to INVERCARGILL PUBLIC ART GALLERY to encompass all art in Invercargill.

02.40 People believed that Anderson Park Gallery started from SIR ROBERT ANDERSON’S art collection, but this is wrong. Started in 1940s.

03.20 All collections in storage. Art Gallery staff have been involved in displaying art in various locations in the meantime. Describes

04.20 SPRING EXHIBITION held every year. Up and coming artists considered and work purchased. Describes. Value of collection has increased greatly. 1,000 pieces in the collection. Spring exhibition provides income to purchase art works. Work sometimes purchased from the Spring exhibition for the collection. Describes

09.00 Challenges to displaying art at Anderson Park because of the distraction of the dwelling’s architecture. Heritage art OK, but modern art especially difficult.

10.10 ANDERSON PARK HOUSE was designed by CECIL WOOD, a Christchurch architect. Describes

12.00 Biographical information on SIR ROBERT ANDERSON, who started from an impoverished childhood and ended up with a knighthood. Worked at SOUTHLAND BUILDING SOCIETY, interested in FARMING, worked for SIR JOSEPH WARD. Man of his time.

13.30 CECIL WOOD’S dwellings designed in Christchurch were all brick, but Anderson Park house is concrete. Describes. House finished in 1925. Built by ALFRED BALL, ancestor of E H BALL.

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TRACK TWENTY SEVEN

00.12 ANDERSON PARK HOUSE built for £15,000 in 1925. Describes construction of house.

01.40 As well as being a banker, SIR ROBERT ANDERSON purchased and developed farms, including association with EDENDALE HOMESTEAD. Two storied dwelling there in bush. Describes

02.35 ANDERSON FAMILY owned a large holding in the HOKONUI area.

03.00 SIR ROBERT ANDERSON knighted for his benefits to Invercargill city and ST JOHN.

03.30 Prior to Anderson Park house, local dwellings built in timber, then double brick, with one or two in stone.

04.00 Mentions WANTWOOD stone homestead near MANDEVILLE and dwelling in MARURUA between MATAURA and WINTON owned by the GALT FAMILY. Large tracts of land.

04.45 Mentions JOHN HOWELL who owned large area of land in RIVERTON, and ended up in a dwelling in FAIRLIGHT.

04.45 Brick house at WAIMAHAKA owned by the HOLMES FAMILY, similar to Anderson Park house. Not designed by Cecil Wood, but BRODERICK. Describes.

09.50 Self is on the HERITAGE BUILDING AND PRESERVATION TRUST. Formed so owners of heritage of buildings could access loans. Needs to be for heritage listed buildings. Describes.

12.00 Self involved with SALVATION ARMY – member of the Service Group of the church, set up to offer advice to Salvation Army officers. Salvation Army works with prisoners, and does other good work. Describes. Self’s task was to advise on buildings, some of which are heritage buildings.

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TRACK TWENTY EIGHT

00.12 Further description of SALVATION ARMY BUILDINGS, one of which is designed by BRODERICK. One is ARTS AND CRAFTS. Mentions TREVOR BLACKLER. Salvation Army wanted to develop a new site – self suggested that SOUTH SCHOOL could be used. First two storied school in Southland. Describes. Didn’t work out because Salvation Army in Wellington didn’t approve.

04.00 Mentions CUNNINGHAM INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT near VICTORIA AVENUE.

04.50 SALVATION ARMY now worships in a building on VICTORIA AVENUE.

05.20 Architect BRODERICK was born in Invercargill in 1867 to an established family who started the INVERCARGILL SAVINGS BANK in 1864. First day pupil of SOUTHLAND BOYS HIGH SCHOOL, then on the corner of Conon and Forth Street. 1884 articled to BURWELL ARCHITECT for five years describes. No university degree for architecture at the time.

07.50 Architect BURWELL established himself in Invercargill. Arrived in New Zealand with an uncle, DAVID ROSS, a prominent architect in Dunedin. Returned to Australia in the later years of his life and died in MELBOURNE. Describes.

09.30 BRODERICK travelled with BURWELL to AUSTRALIA in 1887 and finished his qualification there. Returned to New Zealand in 1891 and set up practice in HAWERA in the North Island. Travelled to the UNITED KINGDOM in 1898, returning in 1900 to practice in Invercargill. Building designed by him date from 1904. Mentions Invercargill Broderick buildings. In 1930 Broderick took architect TONY ROYDS in as a partner, but Royds died three years later.

11.10 ARTHUR MILNE started to work for BRODERICK in the 1930s before enlisting for WAR SERVICE. Returned after the war to take up Broderick’s practice, as Broderick was then deceased.

11.30 BRODERICK served three times on the INVERCARGILL BOROUGH COUNCIL, and served a term as DEPUTY MAYOR. Married the daughter of SURVEYOR J T THOMSON, and died in 1943 aged 76.

12.10 No mention is made of Burwell marrying, and birth date not known.

12.40 Mentions further buildings designed by Broderick. Buildings diverse in style. Mentions MASONIC TEMPLE in FORTH STREET, which won a national silver medal for architecture. Also designed ARDNEIL in KENNINGTON for MR MCNAB, a politician. The area McNab above Gore is named after him.

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TRACK TWENTY NINE

00.12 MCNAB built ARDNEIL for his fiancé in England. Designed by BRODERICK - very unusual dwelling describes. Fiancé did not marry him, and he never lived in the house.

01.30 CONCRETE TANK in the roof of ARDNEIL to collect water. This system also used to serve the bathrooms at MARARUA between Mataura and Wyndham describes.

03.00 Describes location of ARDNEIL in KENNINGTON and layout of house.

04.30 Owner of ARDNEIL a descendent of HILLIS BROTHERS, owners who were hermits. House very damp. Current owner has had some of the slate roof replaced.

06.00 Limestone house at OTAUTAU GREENHEIGHT (?) Describes

06.50 Further description of ARDNEIL.

08.50 Some panic in Invercargill after CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE. Self has made a list of twelve essential buildings which must be protected. Describes.

09.55 Heritage precincts included in list, YMCA TO THE NITH STREET CORNER ON TAY STREET, GRAND HOTEL TO BRISCOES, extending along SPEY STREET TO LEVEN STREET.

10.50 Buildings further down DEE STREET, including THE BLACK SWAN describes.

11.40 Self involved in the decision to demolish the SOUTHLAND ELECTRIC POWER BOARD building where FARMERS now stands. Building structurally unsound. Describes.

12.55 Replacement FARMERS building fits into the scale and character of the streetscape.

13.30 Self critical of the City Council’s development of Don Street with regard to streetscape. Describes.

14.35 Comparison of Invercargill streetscapes to MELBOURNE.

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TRACK THIRTY

00.12 MELBOURNE and NEW YORK ARCHITECTURE described.

01.10 Critical of CHIEF EXECUTIVE RICHARD KING’S comments re the retention of SOUTHLAND TIMES BUILDING, designed by CHAS ROBERTS.

01.40 KELVIN HOTEL designed by ARTHUR MILNE described. Self believes there is too much power shared between the INVERCARGILL CITY COUNCIL and the INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST.

04.15 Concept of new buildings becoming heritage buildings. Describes building next to former BANK OF NEW SOUTH WALES, now a car park – FORMER ANZ BANK and should be registered.

05.15 ESK STREET SHOPPING PRECINCT described. Esk Street shops moved to KELVIN STREET because of high rents.

06.50 The BANKS on the corner of TAY AND DEE STREETS are now dispersed throughout Invercargill.

7.20 LAWYERS’ OFFICES close to COURT HOUSE which was a justification for addition to it. Describes. Original architect of the Court House was J T MAIR, who designed FIRST CHURCH and other buildings. Self suggested adding the extra storey on to the Court House.

11.20 Self believes that the INVERCARGILL LICENSING TRUST has a problem on its hands regarding choosing the site for a new hotel. Mentions GEOFF THOMPSON planning to build a HOTEL IN INVERCARGILL – a developer of hotels in TE ANAU and the POST OFFICE DEVELOPMENT in DUNEDIN.

12.20 CIVIC ADMINISTRATION BUILDING and KELVIN HOTEL have poor earthquake classifications. Concern about students living in EARTHQUAKE PRONE BUILDINGS. Self believes that the ILT plan to build behind the current Kelvin Hotel – if so SOUTHLAND TIMES BUILDING should remain intact. Describes.

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TRACK THIRTY ONE

00.12 Further Description of POSSIBLE NEW HOTEL near the Southland Times building.

02.00 OUT OF TOWN ARCHITECTS are sometimes unaware of INVERCARGILL WEATHER when designing. ILT no longer employs local architects. Self recommends competitions for designing new buildings. ILT anti competition.

04.10 GRAND HOTEL OWNERS keen to learn more of history. BRODERICK designed part of hotel, along with others. Describes.

05.00 Self critical of FRONT ENTRANCES OF KELVIN HOTEL, and ENTRANCE TO GRAND HOTEL is also problematic. Describes

06.00 Self and friends frequented the WOOL BAR at the GRAND HOTEL over the years, and moved around other bars as well, including the CECIL HOTEL. Mentions DESCHLERS on ESK STREET.

07.00 GRAND HOTEL had a beautiful dining room and lounge. Describes

08.15 Describes GRAND HOTEL FLIGHT BAR.

09.00 Further describes LOUNGE at the GRAND HOTEL.

09.50 Addition of ENSUITES to rooms resulted in rooms becoming pokey. Describes.

10.40 SOMERSET RESTAURANT at the Grand Hotel had large windows. Very well run. Also a good RESTAURANT AT THE TOP OF THE KELVIN HOTEL for a time.

11.30 ILT usually puts in a restaurant in every development, e.g. NORTHERN TAVERN – disagrees with this. Describes

13.00 GRAHAM HAWKES apprentice chef at the GRAND HOTEL. HEAD CHEF was Dutch and provided good food. GEORGE MERTZ was the MANAGER of the GRAND HOTEL.

13.30 PETER RIDSDALE was a good manager of the Ascot Park Hotel.

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TRACK THIRTY TWO

00.12 Further comment about hotel bars, including the WOOL BAR and the CECIL.

01.20 Further bar behind the WOOL BAR, used primarily by RAILWAY WORKERS. Describes the Wool Bar.

02.00 The idea of setting up a TEN PIN BOWLING ALLEY started in the Wool Bar through discussion – a lawyer, an engineer and self. Purchased building cheaply. Approached KERRIDGE ODEON for advice. TERRY YOUNG from YUNCA HEATING assisted in obtaining LANES AND MACHINERY from JAPAN and AMERICA (a man called DAN TUCKER). Bowling Alley built in 1986. TERRY YOUNG, PETER WELLS, TONY MAJOR, JOHN COCKROFT and self all involved. Opened by MAYOR EVE POOLE. Manager was a PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALLER from America. Describes.

11.00 Discussion at the WOOL BAR also included considering purchasing pieces of land for FORESTRY. LINDSAY LORD SURVEYOR ended up doing this.

12.00 Further description of Bowling Alley. Still owned by the group.

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TRACK THIRTY THREE

00.12 Birthdays and other celebrations held in the Bowling Alley. Strong association with schools and community groups. Describes.

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